"You tell us that baptism is absolutely necessary to go to heaven. If there were a man so good that he never offended God, and if he died without baptism, would he go to hell, never having given any offense to God? If he goes to hell, then God must not love all good people, since He throws one into the fire.
You teach us that God existed before the creation of heaven and earth. If he did, where did He live, since there was neither heaven nor earth ?
You say that the angels were created in the beginning of the world, and that those who disobeyed were cast into Hell. How can that be so, since you say the angels sinned before earth's creation, and hell is in the depths of the earth?
You declare that those who go to hell do not come out of it, and yet you relate stories of the damned who have appeared in the world - how is that to be understood?
Ah, how I would like to kill devils, since they do so much harm! But if they are made like men and some are even among men, do they still feel the fire of hell? Why is it that they do no repent, would God not be merciful to them? If Our Lord has suffered for all sinners, why do they not receive pardon from him?
You say that the virgin, mother of Jesus Christ, is not God, and that she has never offended God. You also say that her Son has redeemed all men, and atoned for all; but if she has done nothing wrong, her Son could not redeem her nor atone for her."
You teach us that God existed before the creation of heaven and earth. If he did, where did He live, since there was neither heaven nor earth ?
You say that the angels were created in the beginning of the world, and that those who disobeyed were cast into Hell. How can that be so, since you say the angels sinned before earth's creation, and hell is in the depths of the earth?
You declare that those who go to hell do not come out of it, and yet you relate stories of the damned who have appeared in the world - how is that to be understood?
Ah, how I would like to kill devils, since they do so much harm! But if they are made like men and some are even among men, do they still feel the fire of hell? Why is it that they do no repent, would God not be merciful to them? If Our Lord has suffered for all sinners, why do they not receive pardon from him?
You say that the virgin, mother of Jesus Christ, is not God, and that she has never offended God. You also say that her Son has redeemed all men, and atoned for all; but if she has done nothing wrong, her Son could not redeem her nor atone for her."
Young "savage" seminarians 12-15 years old to the Jesuit father Paul Le Jeune, late 1630s
Traducción....
"Ustedes nos dicen que el bautismo es absolutamente necesario para ir al cielo. Si hubiese un hombre tan bueno que nunca haya ofendido a Dios, y si él muriera sin ser bautizado, ¿se iría al Infierno aunque nunca haya ofendido a Dios? Si se fuera al Infierno, entonces Dios no debe amar a todas las personas buenas, ya que metió a uno en las llamas.
Ustedes nos enseñan que Dios existió antes de la creación del Cielo y de la Tierra. Si fuese así, ¿dónde vivió él, cuando no existía el Cielo ni la Tierra?
Ustedes dicen que los ángeles fueron creados en el comienzo del mundo, y que aquellos que desobedecieron fueron arrojados al Infierno. ¿Cómo puede ser así, cuando ustedes dicen que los ángeles pecaron antes de la creación de la Tierra, y el Infierno está en las profundidades de ésta?
Ustedes declaran que aquellos que van al Infierno no salen de allí, y sin embargo ustedes relatan historias de demonios que han aparecido en el mundo - ¿Cómo se puede entender eso?
Ah, ¡cómo me gustaría eliminar demonios, ya que perjudican tanto! Pero si ellos fueron creados como los hombres y algunos incluso están entre los hombres, ¿ellos aún sienten el fuego del Infierno? ¿Por qué no se arrepienten? ¿Dios no sería misericordioso con ellos? Si nuestro señor ha sufrido por todos los pecadores, ¿por qué ellos no reciben el perdón de él?
Ustedes dicen que la virgen, madre de Jesucristo, no es Dios, y que ella nunca ha ofendido a Dios. Ustedes también dicen que su hijo ha redimido a todos los hombres, y pagó las culpas de todos; pero si ella no ha hecho nada malo, su hijo no podría redimirla ni pagar las culpas de ella".
Joven "salvaje" de 12 a 15 años de edad (estudiante de seminario) dirigiéndose al padre Jesuita Paul Le Jeune, a fines de 1630s
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genial que no se dejen lavar el cerebro por los religiosos
REFLEXIONES BASTANTE LOGICAS, COMO ES LA LOGICA DE LOS NIÑOS (MUCHO MEJOR QUE LA DE UN ADULTO), TAMBIEN ME GUSTARIA SABER QUE CONTESTOEL JESUITA QUE SON LOS ESTUDIOSOS DE LA RELIGION CATOLICA. SIEMPRE ME HA GUSTADO VER AMBOS LADOS DEL AMONEDA.
Ni;os, tienen mente cerrada.
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